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WASHINGTON STATE COMMISSION ON PESTICIDE REGISTRATION MINUTES (APPROVED) MARCH 13, 2002
Chair Herb Teas, Presiding CALL TO ORDER AND INTRODUCTIONS at 10:00 a.m. Commissioners in attendance: Ron Angel, Ben Barstow, Kevin Corliss, Ann George, Andy Jensen, Bill Mason, Chuck Masters, Ted Maxwell, Bryan Sakuma, Herb Teas, Doug Walsh Staff in attendance: Donna Gorham, Tracy Olberding, Alan Schreiber Commissioners not in attendance: Bob Berger, Bill Green, Doug Muse, Kurt Volker Guests: John Brown, WSU, Catherine Daniels, WSU, Shawn McNeil, WTFRC, Gary Pelter, WSU, Jane Thomas, WSU Chair Teas called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. Commissioners, staff and guests introduced themselves.
PUBLIC COMMENT
MINUTES Schreiber noted copies of the approved minutes were included for the July 11and September 19, 2001 Commission meetings and the August 16, 2001 Executive Committee meeting. Schreiber asked for corrections to the proposed November meeting minutes. There were no corrections.
Schreiber noted proposed minutes for the January meeting is included in the meeting notebooks. Chuck Masters noted on page seven, under proposal 02AN039, Jensen asked the role of Weyerhaeuser in the project. Masters said the answer should read: Weyerhaeuser is a participant in the research and is providing project leadership to the research team.
Schreiber said proposed minutes from the February 18, 2002 Executive Committee teleconference were also included. No corrections were noted.
FINANCIAL REPORT Schreiber updated Commissioners on the WSDA "Jesernig dollars" funds transfer. A teleconference was held March 12, 2002 to discuss the transfer of funds to WSCPR. Herb Teas and Alan Schreiber represented WSCPR, Don Holbrook, Tom Kelly, and Tucson Smith represented WSU, individuals from contracts and grants, and Bill Brookreson represented WSDA. An interagency agreement was drafted. Schreiber said the WSDA just wants to transfer the funds to WSCPR with no say over how the funds are dispersed. Teas noted if the funds are not expended by 2003, the funds must be returned.
Schreiber noted all "Jesernig dollars" would go to projects from WSU researchers. The details have not been worked out yet and WSU does not have a mechanism to accept the funds from the WSDA. John Brown said the issue is with the wording of the agreement in regard to who receives the grant. Schreiber said during the conference call, it was stated WSU does not have a mechanism to accept the funding. Brown said he spoke with Don Holbrook this morning and Holbrook said it would be taken care of. Schreiber said this is a big improvement. WSDA does not want to track "Jesernig funds" and they want the WSCPR to track the funds. Teas said WSDA wants to get the funds transferred in one chunk.
ADMINISTRATORS REPORT Schreiber gave Commissioners an overview of the outline for the report. The report will include sections on overview, mandate, history, and Commission processes. Bob Berger had suggested including the project status report. Schreiber said the report would include a list of projects funded, state allocations, matching funds and in-kind support. The report will include new registrations and new mandate use practices. Schreiber noted new mandate projects take longer and are not as tangible. A section on impacts will include protection of human health, environment and economic impacts, reduced risk, noxious weeds, salmon/riparian barrier. A section on other benefits will include development of IPM programs, regional cooperation with the University of Oregon, University of California, and Utah State University, and information about PNN. An appendix may include more information about funds that have come in. Schreiber said the report may be more than 20 pages and will be a glossy, four-color report. Chuck Masters suggested an executive summary and a table of contents be included. Schreiber said if the report length were longer than 40 pages, an executive summary would be needed. Masters suggested paying sufficient attention to the environmental side of the issues; people think agriculture is a polluter of the environment and there are lots of stories to tell. Schreiber said the report would be distributed ahead of the presentation to the legislature to build support for continuance of the Commission. Masters said we want to ensure the Commission is really needed not only by agriculture but by the environmental community as well. Schreiber said he would start on the report and provide periodic updates on the status to Commissioners. Schreiber said he would use the Executive Committee to bounce ideas off of.
RFP
2002 WASHINGTON PEST CONTROL TOUR
WSCPR QUESTIONAIRE
MEETING DATES; Schreiber said in a previous meeting a Commissioner had suggested an administrators' review of the quality of previous work done by researchers requesting funding. Commissioners agreed and Schreiber said this would be provided at funding meetings.
PROPOSAL PRESENTATIONS Herb Teas asked about the note on the budget page in reference to co-funding. Bragg said co-funding is for $44,000 from GSCSSA from USDA sources, $4,000 is from industry. The note was added by Dorothy Hieder, is informational only and was not included as cost share. Bragg said Tom Kelly insisted on the statement. Teas said as far as WSCPR is concerned, this amount is considered matching. Chuck Masters said the project description was lacking information needed to evaluate the budget request - what efficacy trials on how many products. Bragg said these are large trials, remote from Pullman. Bragg noted the request is for work to be done, the data from 2001 is not available and cleaning the seed is a long process. Masters asked why, for the 2002 trial, are only two products being included. Bragg said he wanted more than two products but when he asked industry people to propose products to study - Capture and Leverage were the two that were asked for. Walsh asked if FMC pushed for Mustang. Bragg said FMC was not really interested in Mustang, Sladen feels Capture has better potential in grass seed.
02AN067 Development of a Molecular Seed Assay for Detection/Quantification of Seed-borne Inoculum Associated with Neck Rot of Onion Schreiber noted the proposal was submitted without the knowledge that "Jesernig dollars" were all allocated and if the proposal is funded all the money would come from WSCPR funds. Chuck Masters noted part of the problem with the current assay is to really understand the infection level and how to be precise enough to get infection levels and replication associated with the infection level. Pelter noted another study augments this proposal and one of the Dutch seed companies will provide three levels of infected seed plus a clean batch.
02PN070 Crop Profile Coordinator Chuck Masters asked what DOE's role is in Pest Management Strategic Planning (PMSP) process, how this got started, what is DOE looking to accomplish and, if DOE provides money, will any strings be attached. Daniels said Green approached her about putting more emphasis on crop profiles based on how he perceived water management. Daniels said a request for $50,000 under the Clean Water Act will be submitted to document how pesticides are important to IPM programs, to identify water contamination and look at how to change pesticide uses. Daniels noted once PMSP's are done, all growers are eligible for loans to change practices. The DOE has asked for crop profiles and PMSP's for irrigation districts and oysters. Schreiber asked who pays for these. Daniels said it costs $5,000 to hold a workshop and funds come out of grant monies. Ann George asked if industry puts in money. Daniels said some industries are better able to pay, for example, potato. Bill Mason asked about mosquito control districts. Daniels noted it is hard to get USDA to recognize water is a commodity. Schreiber asked how much funding is currently set aside for crop profiles or PMSP's. Daniels said $5,000 last year for PMSP's. Schreiber asked what the likelihood of getting DOE money. Daniels said they have not gone through the process. Schreiber asked if the total $70,000 is funded, how will they pick what gets worked on. Daniels said wine grapes, pears, apricots, peaches, nectarines, plums and prunes would be done if funding were approved. Daniels noted she was open to WSCPR picking the eight for the DOE portion. Schreiber asked if tree fruit asked to be done first. Daniels said they agreed when she called and, since workload is high, there are not a lot of people asking for these. Herb Teas asked how realistic is it to have an individual do this. Daniels said the individual does not need to know all things, but must be able to sit down with a group of people and ask questions to gather information. Schreiber noted for the potato PMSP, a professional facilitator was hired who did not know potatoes. Daniels said an individual is needed who can gather information, that information will be reviewed by Daniels and follow-up questions will be generated. Schreiber noted this is a one-time request for funding from WSCPR, and asked how the position would be funded in the future. Daniels said future funding sources would be found and the intent is to move towards developing PMSP's over many years. Schreiber asked for clarification on the budget amount for equipment and hourly salary. Daniels said the equipment budget was for a computer and printer and the hourly salary was for data collection and clerical support. Schreiber noted 14% of the match is for indirect costs. Daniels said this is a requirement from WSU. Ann George noted as more crop profiles are developed, more time would be required to maintain them. Daniels said the crop profiles must be updated every couple of years and the researcher may decide when an update is needed. Teas asked if the cost is out of the normal budget. Daniels said all maintenance costs come out of USDA funds, and noted they have run out of researchers to write profiles since these are significant investments in researcher time. Chuck Masters noted the discussion from the January meeting indicated WSDA was a partner in this effort. Ted Maxwell noted WSDA was never a partner and the discussion is much different today than in January. Schreiber noted this has changed into something different than what Green proposed in January. Masters noted the $50,000 is for crop profiles and not PMSP's. Daniels said the request is for crop profiles only. Chair Teas invited Commissioner's to break for lunch at 12:30 p.m.
The meeting resumed at 1:00 p.m.
PNN Thomas asked Commissioners if the timing the survey every four years was acceptable. Ben Barstow asked if any follow-up was done with non-responders. Thomas said no. Barstow asked the rate of response. Thomas said 47% of the 150 surveys sent out were returned. Thomas asked for feedback from Commissioners as to posting a sign up page on the PNN web page. Thomas noted in the past the Commission was restrictive as to who was on the PNN distribution, including WSU and commodity groups. Thomas said this has relaxed over time and there is no expense to adding users. Teas suggested making e-mail contact a requirement. Thomas noted it was possible to get subscribers from out of state. Schreiber noted Oregon and Idaho may be interested, but a South Carolina asparagus grower may want to have access and this situation could cause a significant increase in subscribers. Teas said he saw no serious down side to an enrollment screen on the web page. Doug Walsh asked how many contacts are using facsimile exclusively. Thomas said about twenty and a few still use US mail. Schreiber asked how many hits on the website occur a month. Thomas said about 300 per month. Thomas said the current request is for funding for FY2003. Thomas noted this request has an increase in salary and benefits for her position. Thomas said her position description is being re-written and that may mean a salary increase in October. Thomas said if the position upgrade is not approved, funds would be returned to WSCPR. Thomas said another part of the increase in budget is for a time-slip position that was made a permanent part-time position this year. The request is for $50,500 to operate the PNN for FY2003. Schreiber said one way the Commission may deal with the budget cut is an across the board cut to the WSCPR budget and asked what the impact to PNN would be if the budget were cut. Daniels said the position time would be cut, and noted currently Thomas is working on PNN 50% of the time. Daniels continued that basic notifications would go out and any new projects would be cut.
THIRD PARTY LABELING McNeil said third party labeling is an area he wants to encourage discussion on and the end result is to have a small group put together to study this issue. McNeil said, for lime sulfur, the chemical company response was the potential for lawsuits was too high. McNeil said growers came back and said they needed this product. McNeil helped generate a 24c for the state and it is theoretically possible to issue more 24c's for the same use, which he wants to avoid. McNeil said a third party company would streamline this process. McNeil said Mycoshield currently has a 24c and is a good candidate for third party labeling. The WSCPR may have an interest due to the broad base in commodity groups and state regulations. Currently, McNeil is using a Florida group's efforts as a template and it is possible to spin off another organization to do third party labeling. Ann George asked Ted Maxwell if the Idaho Department of Agriculture had changed their stance on third party labeling. Maxwell said he did not know. George noted Idaho has historically not supported third party labeling. Schreiber directed Commissioners to an example of template language in Commissioner notebooks that was acceptable. George noted the concept is good and suggested checking with IDA if their position had changed. George said a regional approach would be desirable. Schreiber said the concern over litigation for these minor use registrations is a significant obstacle to registration and it is within WSCPR's charter to get involved in this issue. Schreiber said WSCPR would be better off to not hold labels and to name a third party to hold the labels, WSCPR could facilitate the creation of an entity, a non-profit pan agriculture entity, whose sole purpose is to hold these labels. To use these labels, the individual must join the entity and sign an agreement not to sue the registrant. Chuck Masters said the third party labeling process is something to support and it is important to get registrants involved in the administration process. The registrants need to feel comfortable with our process. Schreiber recommended forming a committee with Chuck Masters, Ted Maxwell, Shawn McNeil, Kurt Volker, Doug Walsh, and Alan Schreiber. Schreiber said the committee would report back to the Commission at the May meeting. Commissioners agreed with this course of action.
POLICY AND PROCEDURE
PLANT BREEDING PROJECTS John Brown said a new initiative is in front of the legislature in 2003 on sustainable agriculture and there may be a window for plant breeding. Brown noted sustainable agriculture return is longer than five years and this initiative would give researchers another place to go for funding. George noted the difficulty is that IPM is part of sustainable agriculture and it is difficult to draw a line. Brown said a critical point in plant breeding might be to rule out transgenic where five years is not a window. Schreiber said the problem with plant breeding is that it is a long-term investment and the same is true with transgenic. Kevin Corliss said he doesn't want to see a person asking for a specific target period to evaluate previously bred materials get lumped together with other plant breeding projects. That type of project does have value with a quick turnaround. Teas noted many other things are involved in a variety trial other than just disease. Schreiber said the Commission does not want to develop a policy that would preclude us from funding plant breeding work. Andy Jensen said every breeding program will have a disease or IPM screening component and asked if this is what Commissioners wanted to get involved with. Jensen asked Commissioners to define plant breeding. Teas asked if this was about varieties already in commercial use or at the research stage. Jensen replied for his example, already released. Barstow asked if this only applies to new mandate. Teas said it did. Barstow noted this policy would only apply to half of the Commission's funding. Schreiber asked if the Commission would restrict submission, if no return within five years. Jensen said he had no problem evaluating specific projects already on track to be released. Masters noted breeding programs per se appear to be non-ending. Schreiber suggested strengthening the language to read an expectation of increased new return to grower within a 3-5 year period. Masters said the Commission could choose where to enter the breeding program timeline. Teas said this would allow evaluation of non-commercialized varieties with 2-3 years of release. George agreed and said this gives the Commission the opportunity to use common sense. Schreiber agreed to strengthen the language in the RFP in regard increased return within a five-year timeframe and to develop RFP priorities.
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
DISCUSSION
PRESENTATIONS BY COMMISSIONERS
CO-FUNDING Schreiber noted staff at WSU must identify what they spend their time on, in the past; researchers have not listed projects on their timesheets. Schreiber asked if researchers are allowed to use their time to leverage their proposal as match, does the Commission want to enforce tracking this. George noted different universities would have different procedures. Schreiber asked Commissioners what co-funding carries the most weight. Barstow said the commodity group funds carry the most weight. George said the source doesn't matter, showing commitment by an affected industry vs. a researcher trying to get a paper done. Walsh said his opinion, as a Commissioner, is that individual grower dollars count the most, commodity group comes in second and efficacy monies from pesticide companies are third. Schreiber suggested no restrictions be placed on match, but placing greater value on cash and in-kind contributions from impacted parties. John Brown noted other universities use salary as a big part of matching, and it appears WSU is penalized for not putting salary in the match. Walsh noted the Wine Advisory Committee has changed their position to require inclusion of salary. Teas noted the information should be captured for the legislative report. Schreiber noted for repeat requests for the same project or a similar project, consideration should be given to previous work. Brown asked how this would be done. Schreiber said by administrator review, progress reports and site visits. Brown asked if this information would be circulated with the current proposal to Commissioners. Schreiber said it would go to Commissioners before the meeting or at the meeting. Teas noted the Tree Fruit Research Commission does this on an annual basis. Schreiber said with funding meetings, there is a lot of reading for Commissioners, and Commissioners want some kind of assurance as to the quality of previous work.
PROPOSAL DECISIONS
02PN066 Control of Insect Vectored Silver Top Fungus in Grass Seed Fields PNW Region Using Soft Pesticides
02AN067 Development of a Molecular Seed Assay for Detectin/Quantification of Seed-borne Inoculum Associated with Neck Rot of Onion
DISCUSSION
02AN070 Crop Profile Coordinator
OTHER BUSINESS Chair Teas adjourned the meeting at 3:30 pm.
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